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Кто-нибудь когда-нибудь слышал, что Райса с Уэббером на написание будущей нетленки вдохновили стихи Боба Дилана:

In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side

Вот блин, не зря же он в ихний великий бард.

И Клайд, мы как-то рассуждали о смене полов. Я тут наткнулась на обсуждение, где люди вспоминают о различных постановках JCS с женщинами в ролях Иуды, Петра, Симона, Пилата, первосященников, ну и Иисуса, конечно. Где-то концепция спектакля при этом не менялась, а где-то вполне даже.

Has anyone else seen good productions (or bad also, i suppose) of JCS where they switch up the genders? I've seen a marvelous one where they had a female Judas, Pilate, and Priests...and they were all really good. It added a neat dimenson, I though, especially with Judas as a girl, since women are always the cause of societies problems in the first place PS: I can say that because I am female

Timmerbo Joined: 20 Apr 2002 Posts: 333 Nope... had a female friend who played Annas in a production once. Didn't see it or even know about it until much after. I have trouble picturing a female Pilate, especially considering the lower notes in 'Pilate's Dream' and 'Pilate and Christ'.

Scratchy Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 35 Location: Toronto, ON Canada Women in JCS I have seen a production where Herod was played by a woman impersonating Barbara Streisdand, it was quite funny. Another production had women preists, that was not bothersome at all. A female Annas would work well, also.

Luke Joined: 22 Apr 2002 Posts: 520 Location: Brisvegas, Australia We had a female Annas, Peter and Herod, as well as a couple of the priests. It worked well. I personally think Annas sounds better sung by females. And Peter is fine as well. I would never change Caiaphas or Pilate though.

Brat Joined: 07 Oct 2002 Posts: 21 Location: Gold Coast, Qld, Australia YES YES YES!!! I've been in a production where they changed some sexes around! Originally they wanted a female Judas but when that concept kinda died in the arse, they went for a female Annas, Priest 3 and 4 of the 12 Apostles! It worked but they also tried to change the concept of the show, bring it up to date. turn Jesus into a rock star, it kinda worked, but if u love JCS in its traditional form as i do, it was kinda ruined! BTW, i was originally cast as Peter, but pulled out cause i got cast in a production of Can-Can closer to where i live, and with a MUCH better theatre company!

bigredhoos1015 Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 6 No offense to any women, but I think if you put women in any male parts in this show, it would ruine the story and the message it is trying to send to society. But, this is just my opinion.

Sat Mar 08, 2003 3:29 pm
joecable1996 Joined: 31 May 2002 Posts: 177 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Hmmm... makes you think... quote: Originally posted by bigredhoos1015: I think if you put women in any male parts in this show, it would ruin the story and the message it is trying to send to society. But, this is just my opinion. I don't think that's necessarily the case. I do think that random gender swapping would be detrimental. However, I do feel that if the director has a concept that serves the material and if that concept includes gender swapping, then it's fine. After all, what is the message of a play? And should plays be performed to send a message at all? And who sends the message? I think that it's much more interesting to play characters and situations than a message. Playing a message is like playing comedy: it's self aware - comedy arises out of situation and character, not out of playing the joke. As for who sends the message: well, the writing is there but when you put that text into performance, things like the director's concept come into play. And I hope to see many different concepts take many different forms - each new staging of the text deserves to be handled in it's own territory. New stagings demand fresh thinking.

FreddiesHalfMic Joined: 28 Mar 2003 Posts: 5 *whistles* oops...

flyinghome Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 273 Location: USA I have been in a production where Peter was a girl, worked perfectly. Seen one with Simon actually as a girl, which was fine as well since she was awesome. Seen one with Pilate as a girl..... not so good.

IEMJEEZUSKRYST Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 101 I did see a production of JCS with Judas as a girl too. Though she did a great job as the part, I think it was all wrong in the show. I mean, if you think about it, which I constantly was while watching, you see that Judas as a girl just doesn't work at all and changes a lot of feeling and character of the show that wasn't intended. Such as, it could be interpreted that the reason Judas is doing this to Jesus is because Judas is jealous of Jesus' and Mary's relationship, because maybe Judas loves Jesus. Afterall, right before Judas dies, he/she sings a reprise of "I Don't Know How To Love Him". And Judas interrupts Mary's soothing of Jesus' in "Everthing's Alright" and in "What's the Buzz?". If this was just a normal strory and didn't originally have anything, I am sure that is what the interpretation would be. She goes through the "I am jealous and this is what's best" (act one) stage and then the "I regret what I've done so just leave me alone now that I can't have you" (Judas' Death) stage and then the "I don't really need you, now I'm cocky" (Superstar) stage. It all fits. But as I said and whole reason of this post, it changes everything as you see. And I don't think that is right to do.

/ну здесь я согласна, может, это и прикольно, но действительно все меняет. По крайней мере, серьезная полноценная версия уже точняк не выходит/

futusta Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 3 hmmm....well i have seen the exact show dramaqueenie is talking about, and i agree with the last post, in saying that it felt like judas "loved" jesus. although when i first saw it i was totally clueless and didn't know what it was about. however, all of you nay-sayers saying Pilate can't be a girl! holy crap! can she! This girl was amazing! she could hit all the low notes, and i personally thought it was way stronger that it was a woman because woman are a lot better at bringing across the compassion. and i've seen this live and i've seen both movies and i don't think either of the pilates do this. It makes the counting scene a hella emotional and wonderful! BTW, this girl had just finished her sophomore year in high school. .
Apollo Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 26 Location: Birmingham, UK We just finished a production of JCS where Simon, Annas and two of the other priests were women. Annas' character works really well if she's played like a Lady Macbeth style vamp and Simon kicks ass as an energetic Lara Croft-esque disciple. I was one of the random disciples in the background. But it was awesome. - really emotional...

Vikki Joined: 11 Jan 2003 Posts: 270 Location: Pittsburgh, PA quote: Originally posted by bigredhoos1015: No offense to any women, but I think if you put women in any male parts in this show, it would ruine the story and the message it is trying to send to society. But, this is just my opinion. Well, I certainly think it would change around many things that we have ingrained in our minds about the story of Jesus. Whether that's a good or bad thing we must all decide for ourselves. But I don't think it would ruin its message. Can't a woman portray fear and sacrifice just as well as a man?